MMA H.E.A.T. Podcast #112: UFC 210 Controversy: DC Wins, Rumble Retires + Mousasi Gets TKO

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On this edition of The MMA H.E.A.T. Podcast, Karyn Bryant and UFC Welterweight Alan Jouban react to UFC 210, where Light Heavyweight Champion Daniel Cormier successfully defended his title in a rematch with Anthony “Rumble” Johnson in the main event. Karyn and Alan talk about the fight, the #TowelGate antics that preceded at the weigh-in and Rumble’s shocking retirement after his 2nd-round submission loss. They also cover the controversial ending to the co-main event, where Gegard Mousasi scored a TKO victory over former champ Chris Weidman.

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120 Comments on "MMA H.E.A.T. Podcast #112: UFC 210 Controversy: DC Wins, Rumble Retires + Mousasi Gets TKO"

  3. Daniel san

    When a doctor asks a fighter "What day is it?" they've got about a 90% chance that "Saturday" is the correct answer. So I feel like Weidman was either lying, to get Mousasi DQ'd; or he legitimately is punch drunk / brain damaged and needs to retire and go into coaching

  4. Daniel san

    When a doctor asks a fighter "What day is it?" they've got about a 90% chance that "Saturday" is the correct answer. So I feel like Weidman was either lying, to get Mousasi DQ'd; or he legitimately is punch drunk / brain damaged and needs to retire and go into coaching

  11. Almighty Khan

    Gegard assassinated Weidman's heart. Chris was looking for a way out the fight and we all saw his new found acting skills used in the cage instead of tv programming. Just another all amurican cheater. Gegard has all the leverage. UFC and Dana White need to, show the Armenian Assassin the mmmmooonnnneeeyyyy bitches!!!!! Gegard could easily be a two weight world champion but he doesn't have blonde or red hair, blue eyes, nor does he like to suck that white dick. So the racist ufc staff and fans hate on him. PAY the man and give him his shot or atleast interm title against yoel. the two best in the division who constantly get pushed aside. they deserve the guarantee shot that comes with intern title and pay.

    • Uber Nietzsche

      Fuck off you stupid raghead sand monkey. The Middle East is the asshole of the world, and a couple dozen nukes dropped on it would be the best thing in the history of humanity. Playing the race card just because you come from a race of losers who will never accomplish anything is a bitch move. Fucking worthless faggot.

    • Uber Nietzsche

      Civilization may have started in the Fertile Crescent, but they haven't invented anything in about 3,000 years and the area is a fucked up shithole today. Nobody owes them shit. They make nothing; the only reason they have any money is because they happen to sit on oil. All of modern science and technology came from the West, making possible all modern industrial production. You owe the West everything you own. And Muslims are wreaking havoc in Europe, committing insane crimes and leaching off welfare while producing nothing. They're losers, plain and simple. Give that race card bullshit a rest, it's for whiny bitches. The UFC isn't racist, you get paid based on how much $$ you make for the company, just like any business. Gegard doesn't get paid all that much because he has no fan base because he's the most boring, uninteresting dude alive. Mark Hunt's not white and has a crappy record,, but he makes $$ because he has a big fan base. Jones makes $$ too despite being a total fuckup. Deal with reality instead spouting bullshit lies about racism. Have some integrity.

  12. Almighty Khan

    Gegard assassinated Weidman's heart. Chris was looking for a way out the fight and we all saw his new found acting skills used in the cage instead of tv programming. Just another all amurican cheater. Gegard has all the leverage. UFC and Dana White need to, show the Armenian Assassin the mmmmooonnnneeeyyyy bitches!!!!! Gegard could easily be a two weight world champion but he doesn't have blonde or red hair, blue eyes, nor does he like to suck that white dick. So the racist ufc staff and fans hate on him. PAY the man and give him his shot or atleast interm title against yoel. the two best in the division who constantly get pushed aside. they deserve the guarantee shot that comes with intern title and pay.

  19. MrJVRIE

    Get taken down is so overrated in the UFC…..You get taken down but there is absolutely no damage done……MMA isn't wrestling…..score the takedowns if it does do damage…..if it doesn't it's just boring to look at and just a technique…..

  20. MrJVRIE

    Get taken down is so overrated in the UFC…..You get taken down but there is absolutely no damage done……MMA isn't wrestling…..score the takedowns if it does do damage…..if it doesn't it's just boring to look at and just a technique…..

  25. Charles Harmon

    Karen, cheating is cheating! You saw his handlers lower the towel and held it with tension. Watch, the rules will be changed by the commission, the fighter will have to raise their hands and arm above their heads on weight ins. Plus, if the fighter doesn't cut the weight then he is cheating his opponent and there is no margin of cheating that is okay. The fear of DC losing his title was the motivation to cheat by not making weight. There is no guarantee that he would have cut the 1.2 pounds (approx. 20 oz) within 2 hours. DC wasn't looking that good during the weight in.

  26. Charles Harmon

    Karen, cheating is cheating! You saw his handlers lower the towel and held it with tension. Watch, the rules will be changed by the commission, the fighter will have to raise their hands and arm above their heads on weight ins. Plus, if the fighter doesn't cut the weight then he is cheating his opponent and there is no margin of cheating that is okay. The fear of DC losing his title was the motivation to cheat by not making weight. There is no guarantee that he would have cut the 1.2 pounds (approx. 20 oz) within 2 hours. DC wasn't looking that good during the weight in.

  31. Thgilmai Eesuoyod

    Good show, but Karyn is wrong about instant replay. The NY State Athletic Commission put out a statement saying refs ARE allowed to use instant replay in the state of New York, they said the correct person won the fight, and they said instant replay WAS LEGALLY USED TO DETERMINE THE OUTCOME OF THIS FIGHT. Legit TKO win for Mousasi. 🙂

    • Thgilmai Eesuoyod

      Karyn Bryant, The statement did come out after the fight, but there was never any rule in New York stating that instant replay was illegal, and anyone who had read the NYSAC rules and regulations would already know that. Not sure why so many people like Chris Weidman, Matt Serra, Marc Ratner, and Ray Longo were running around saying replay was not allowed in New York because it's their job to know the rules, especially Ratner. I read the rules and regulations before the NYSAC statement came out and it was obvious to me that Weidman would lose his appeal to overturn the decision because there is no language in that document even remotely close to saying refs can't use instant replay.

    • Ichinegro Negrosaki

      Additionally, Herb Dean said refs can use polling which is where they can ask another ref for a second opinion if that ref saw what happened at a better angle than them. Dan actually was told by BJM that it ws legal, not sure if Dan even looked at the replays himself but i saw when Dan was discussing it with BJM.

    • Thgilmai Eesuoyod

      Yep they can poll, and Big John did look at the replay which is how he came to the conclusion that the knees were legal. If you watch the fight again and listen carefully you will notice that Big Tan Dan never even actually said the strike was illegal in the first place, he said, "I want to check and see if it was illegal," and that is a direct quote. 🙂

  34. NightmareBill

    Weidman scoring takedowns in round one is totally what everybody was expecting of him with his reputation of the All American wrestler…….its his specialty……so good for him but I was way more impressed by how Mousasi managed to escape every single one of the take downs. Weidman blew his load in round one and suddenly in round Mousasi shows he still is fit and Weidman is in trouble…..

  35. NightmareBill

    Weidman scoring takedowns in round one is totally what everybody was expecting of him with his reputation of the All American wrestler…….its his specialty……so good for him but I was way more impressed by how Mousasi managed to escape every single one of the take downs. Weidman blew his load in round one and suddenly in round Mousasi shows he still is fit and Weidman is in trouble…..

  40. kopxpert

    U'll never know if he can lose that 1.2lbs though. How can we all be so sure? He's been trying to cut to 205 all night/morning. Maybe there's nothing left to lose anymore. All I'm saying is, don't be so sure he can lose that 1.2lbs in 2 hours. And now Rumble's team's filing a complaint. They want do that 20% from DC's purse

  41. kopxpert

    U'll never know if he can lose that 1.2lbs though. How can we all be so sure? He's been trying to cut to 205 all night/morning. Maybe there's nothing left to lose anymore. All I'm saying is, don't be so sure he can lose that 1.2lbs in 2 hours. And now Rumble's team's filing a complaint. They want do that 20% from DC's purse

  42. Jx Styx

    Come on Karen, Weidman's corner is full of it. A fighter only has to say "Yes" or "No" before, during and after a fight. A simple requirement Chris never failed to answer in his entire UFC career up until the Mousasi fight.

    (Before a fight) Do you understand the rules? Yes or No
    (During a fight in-between rounds) Are you ready? Yes or No.
    (After a fight) Are you OK? Yes or No.

    When they asked if he could continue. He did not say Yes.

    End of story.

    All additional questions are there just for further confirmation.

    Chris Weidman tried to shortcut his way to a quick victory and when it backfired, he ended up looking very very bad in the eyes of the public and some of his fighting peers.

    All of his future opponents/haters/detractors are going to use this against him when promoting their fight.

  43. Jx Styx

    Come on Karen, Weidman's corner is full of it. A fighter only has to say "Yes" or "No" before, during and after a fight. A simple requirement Chris never failed to answer in his entire UFC career up until the Mousasi fight. (Before a fight) Do you understand the rules? Yes or No(During a fight in-between rounds) Are you ready? Yes or No.(After a fight) Are you OK? Yes or No.When they asked if he could continue. He did not say Yes.End of story.All additional questions are there just for further confirmation.Chris Weidman tried to shortcut his way to a quick victory and when it backfired, he ended up looking very very bad in the eyes of the public and some of his fighting peers.All of his future opponents/haters/detractors are going to use this against him when promoting their fight.

  60. John Holmes

    It's just fubared. As you probably know now after filming this, Herb Dean said you can poll outside officials. He did that with McCarthy. What was unclear is does that allow for McCarthy to watch replays, even though Miragliotta could have probably saw it on the big screen as well.

    It's all a moot point anyway, because apparently now the NYSAC says instant replay is legal and was legal Saturday. Seems like they're trying to just cover their asses and clean up this debacle.

    Doesn't matter, Mousasi should have won, Weidman can live to fight another day, the only real travesty is Mousasi was robbed of a fan-winning ko of a big name and going out on a huge win! He didn't/couldn't even celebrate his win and I like Longo, but he's been recorded so many times saying classless things on the corner mic and once again a website wrongly attributed it as Serra talking!

    Cormier may have "cheated" the system, well just like vasline gate and stool gate, this will never happen again (or shouldn't). The NYSAC messed up, Johnson and his corner said it was nothing. All of a sudden Abdelaziz is in Johnson's corner because he wants a cut of Cormier's purse. Shame on Johnson for allowing him to go forward with this! He will come out and say it was a "mistake" or "miscommunication".

    If anything, Johnson could be investigated for possibly throwing that fight! He is the definition of selling woof (or wolf) tickets. He even made a comment, to my loved ones who I told to not come and you didn't, thank you for listening to me. WTF is that!? How many people bought tickets for that "performance", bought the ppv, bet money on him! Imagine it comes out someone close to him bet a substantial amount against him because they knew what was going on behind the scenes. He threw 2 headkicks and just folded. His corner knew it. They were disgusted. He fooled everyone.

    Weidman appealed to DW, even DW surprisingly wasn't for a rematch. They better just pay Mousasi so they don't lose him and Jacare to Bellator or somewhere else.

    • DoYouEven NatureBro

      John Holmes Ok thanks! So I did hear Johnson say that about telling people not to attend. Wtf was that exactly?? His performance made zero sense. He quit the second he shot on D.C. I think he planned to quit all along. Either that or decided to quit as soon as D.C. landed that right and backed him up. Just a huge let down. Also agree that it was a shame that Mousasi didn't get a clear ko due to a terrible call by Dan.

  61. John Holmes

    It's just fubared. As you probably know now after filming this, Herb Dean said you can poll outside officials. He did that with McCarthy. What was unclear is does that allow for McCarthy to watch replays, even though Miragliotta could have probably saw it on the big screen as well.It's all a moot point anyway, because apparently now the NYSAC says instant replay is legal and was legal Saturday. Seems like they're trying to just cover their asses and clean up this debacle.Doesn't matter, Mousasi should have won, Weidman can live to fight another day, the only real travesty is Mousasi was robbed of a fan-winning ko of a big name and going out on a huge win! He didn't/couldn't even celebrate his win and I like Longo, but he's been recorded so many times saying classless things on the corner mic and once again a website wrongly attributed it as Serra talking!Cormier may have "cheated" the system, well just like vasline gate and stool gate, this will never happen again (or shouldn't). The NYSAC messed up, Johnson and his corner said it was nothing. All of a sudden Abdelaziz is in Johnson's corner because he wants a cut of Cormier's purse. Shame on Johnson for allowing him to go forward with this! He will come out and say it was a "mistake" or "miscommunication".If anything, Johnson could be investigated for possibly throwing that fight! He is the definition of selling woof (or wolf) tickets. He even made a comment, to my loved ones who I told to not come and you didn't, thank you for listening to me. WTF is that!? How many people bought tickets for that "performance", bought the ppv, bet money on him! Imagine it comes out someone close to him bet a substantial amount against him because they knew what was going on behind the scenes. He threw 2 headkicks and just folded. His corner knew it. They were disgusted. He fooled everyone.Weidman appealed to DW, even DW surprisingly wasn't for a rematch. They better just pay Mousasi so they don't lose him and Jacare to Bellator or somewhere else.

  62. TheGatesOfFire

    Weidman kept taking gegard down but did nothing to gegard. Weidman and Longo are being complete bitch es. you both said what the problem is with all these commentators : you all want to be friends with all the fighters. Call it as it really is. Weidman wanted to win by dq and fucked himself.

  63. TheGatesOfFire

    Weidman kept taking gegard down but did nothing to gegard. Weidman and Longo are being complete bitch es. you both said what the problem is with all these commentators : you all want to be friends with all the fighters. Call it as it really is. Weidman wanted to win by dq and fucked himself.

  64. John Holmes

    The best thing that could have happened for the ufc was for Johnson to leave. Now all those guys who could never make it past him for a title shot, Gustafsson, Manuwa, Bader (now in Bellator), Teixeira, and any up and comers can now actually make it to a title shot without having to go through Johnson.

    With ufc even letting top guys go like Davis, Bader and up and comers like Krylov, they needed a 'shake up'. Manuwa should get the next crack. They can't promote a Jones fight till July and Cormier just fought, may have a busted nose and is getting married. He's not worried about what's good for Jones. I hope he does fight Manuwa next. Give Jones a tune up fight, maybe winner of Gustafsson/Teixeira or someone else and if he wins he can meet up with Cormier in Feb or April of 2018.

  65. John Holmes

    The best thing that could have happened for the ufc was for Johnson to leave. Now all those guys who could never make it past him for a title shot, Gustafsson, Manuwa, Bader (now in Bellator), Teixeira, and any up and comers can now actually make it to a title shot without having to go through Johnson.

    With ufc even letting top guys go like Davis, Bader and up and comers like Krylov, they needed a 'shake up'. Manuwa should get the next crack. They can't promote a Jones fight till July and Cormier just fought, may have a busted nose and is getting married. He's not worried about what's good for Jones. I hope he does fight Manuwa next. Give Jones a tune up fight, maybe winner of Gustafsson/Teixeira or someone else and if he wins he can meet up with Cormier in Feb or April of 2018.

    • Ichicinco Negrosaki

      dc is so squeaky clean that u dumbass haters can only use the towel thing and his bad eating habits against him! oh he is such a dirty fighter and horrible person! he doesnt eyepoke, fail drugtest for coke and peds, or crash into trees and pregnant ladies while drunk driving!

  70. Chris L.

    As for the fight, the reaction of Rumble's entire corner during the fight says it all. It was clearly not planned to wrestle DC (Henri Hooft said so during the MMA Hour), but something in Johnson cracked and he abandoned the mission.

    What's bizarre is he abandoned the gameplan so quickly, without really even giving the original plan a shot. That's gotta be SUPER frustrating for his coaches. It's not like he was going in there blind. I'm sure they had a plan and trained that plan a lot prior to the fight. He just decided to throw that out the window (even after the break in rounds, with his coaches telling him to stop wrestling and to go back to the striking).

    If Rumble ever comes back, I think checking out a sports psychologist might be a good idea, because it seems like his mental game isn't his strongest suit.

  71. chris L

    As for the fight, the reaction of Rumble's entire corner during the fight says it all. It was clearly not planned to wrestle DC (Henri Hooft said so during the MMA Hour), but something in Johnson cracked and he abandoned the mission.

    What's bizarre is he abandoned the gameplan so quickly, without really even giving the original plan a shot. That's gotta be SUPER frustrating for his coaches. It's not like he was going in there blind. I'm sure they had a plan and trained that plan a lot prior to the fight. He just decided to throw that out the window (even after the break in rounds, with his coaches telling him to stop wrestling and to go back to the striking).

    If Rumble ever comes back, I think checking out a sports psychologist might be a good idea, because it seems like his mental game isn't his strongest suit.

  74. Daniel Lassche

    I also don't think it's fair to say that the docs deemed Chirs Weidman unfit to fight based on whether he answered the day of the month correctly. The doc clearly took his time, and used different methods to define whether he was or not. And even got a second doc in for a second opinion. It looks like those questions where just a part or even a small part of the conclusion why Chris was deemed unfit to continue. Which seems fair to me and is probably protocol.

  75. Daniel Lassche

    I also don't think it's fair to say that the docs deemed Chirs Weidman unfit to fight based on whether he answered the day of the month correctly. The doc clearly took his time, and used different methods to define whether he was or not. And even got a second doc in for a second opinion. It looks like those questions where just a part or even a small part of the conclusion why Chris was deemed unfit to continue. Which seems fair to me and is probably protocol.

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